Univar - Dallas

[txcas]

$2.28/gal. delivered. Quoted by Natalie Dill at [phone]. They won't deliver to a residentila area. Also, they won't let you put it in a car/SUV where it's in the same compartment as yourself.

Solution: Go pick up the drum in your pickup or with a trailer and don't tell anybody where you take it.

They require a drum deposit, but I don't know how much that is.

[Bio-Texas-DFW]

Does anyone have a business address we could use?

Maybe list as many businesses as possible, so we can get locations for all over the metroplex to use?

[txashurst]

As of 11/1/05, the price changed to $2.38/gal. delivered (but only to commercial areas as noted above) or pick it up at their location. BTW, they have a location just south of Richardson @ 10889 Bekay St, Dallas, TX 75238. They also list a location@ 11072 Grader St, Dallas, TX 75238, but that's only a few blocks away.
Then there is a Mesquite location @ 100 N Sam Houston Rd, Mesquite, TX 75149

Min. Qty is 55 gal.

Deposit on the drum is $25, but once you pay it, you can exchange the old drum for a new one and just keep rotating them for no additional charge - unless you bang the drum up so it can't be refilled.

You can haul 2 drums (actually 1,001 lbs) without an endorsement on your driver's license or plackards on the load.

[txcas]

That is not bad, but we still need to figure out how to buy from them since the only sell to businesses.

[nc73]

Was anyone successful in getting Methanol from these guys without a business?

[txashurst]

I was thinking about starting a business making and selling beeswax candles, so I registered with the state as "earl's Candles" and got a reseller's Tax ID #. I used that when I called them and set up an account. So I can buy it no problem, but I don't have a trailer for my Jeep to pull to pick it up. So I'll tell you I'll do: if you want to trade services, I'll call them for you and set up the sale so you can go pick it up and pay cash or whatever.

After the first of the year, I'm going to want to buy a drum for myself, and then you can pay me back by picking it up for me and dropping it off in Plano.

[nc73]

txashurst said:

I was thinking about starting a business making and selling beeswax candles, so I registered with the state as "earl's Candles" and got a reseller's Tax ID #. I used that when I called them and set up an account. So I can buy it no problem, but I don't have a trailer for my Jeep to pull to pick it up. So I'll tell you I'll do: if you want to trade services, I'll call them for you and set up the sale so you can go pick it up and pay cash or whatever.

After the first of the year, I'm going to want to buy a drum for myself, and then you can pay me back by picking it up for me and dropping it off in Plano.

Sounds good to me. I will let you know. It should be pretty soon. I have a pickup...

[reson46]

Just curious. How much do these 55 gallon drums weigh? How do you plan on getting them out of the bed of a pickup truck?

That's something that has been running through my head. If they load a 55 gallon drum into the bed of my truck I can't see myself lifting it out and - although it would be pretty funny to watch - the idea of a 55 gallon drum falling out of the back of my truck as I'm trying to unload it, having it burst ope, and spilling all of my methanol doesn't sound appealing.

Just wondering if anybody has already addressed this issue.

Thanks,
William Crawley

[nc73]

reson46 said:

Just curious. How much do these 55 gallon drums weigh? How do you plan on getting them out of the bed of a pickup truck?

That's something that has been running through my head. If they load a 55 gallon drum into the bed of my truck I can't see myself lifting it out and - although it would be pretty funny to watch - the idea of a 55 gallon drum falling out of the back of my truck as I'm trying to unload it, having it burst ope, and spilling all of my methanol doesn't sound appealing.

Just wondering if anybody has already addressed this issue.

Thanks,
William Crawley

about 400lbs
I can always pump or siphon it to another barrel. I will have plenty of barrels by tomorrow. The other thing you could do is get a table the height of your pickup and just push it off the edge of the tailgate onto your table. I've done that before with really heavy objects.

[txcas]

reson46 said:

Just curious. How much do these 55 gallon drums weigh? How do you plan on getting them out of the bed of a pickup truck?

That's something that has been running through my head. If they load a 55 gallon drum into the bed of my truck I can't see myself lifting it out and - although it would be pretty funny to watch - the idea of a 55 gallon drum falling out of the back of my truck as I'm trying to unload it, having it burst ope, and spilling all of my methanol doesn't sound appealing.

Just wondering if anybody has already addressed this issue.

Thanks,
William Crawley

The drum is about 400 pounds. It is extremely difficult to handle, even when it is on the ground. Harbor Freight sells a "Tommy Lift" knock off for $200 that fits on the truck's 2" hitch receiver. It can handle 500 pounds. I have one of those on my wish list. Anyway, I had a 55 gal drum delivered to my house by VP Racing Fuels. I was expecting a flat bed truck with a fork lift for the delivery. The guy came in a pick up truck. He opened the tail gate and put a piece of plywood on the gap between the truck bed and the tailgate, and then placed a wide car tire on the floor. He then put the drum on its side and rolled it to the edge of the tailgate. He got off the tuck and pulled the drum out. The drum fell on the car tire and as it bounced this guy got the drum standing up. My jaw hit the ground and I almost soiled my pants. Don't try this at home folks; this guy is a pro.

[Bio-Texas-DFW]

400 lbs, that shouldn't be too bad. Most of us supermen could handle that with one hand.

I wouldn't recommend pumping it from one drum to another for the simple fact that this is fuel and you would need a special pump made for fuel (non sparking).

I wouldn't recommend siphoning the fuel out either unless you have a way to do it not involving you sucking on the tube as methanol exposer can cause blindness. Maybe you could get one of those fuel tank bubbles like you see on a boat fuel tank.

I know Harbor Freight sells those drum cranes and should be pretty easy to install. I think I've seen one that has a disconnect at the base that will allow you to take the majority of the crane out when you're not using it.

Here's one for $82.99
www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1647
And here's one for $129.99
www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=37555

[nc73]

Gonna have to get something like this

www.bayteccontainers.com/baytec/siphonpump.html

[Bio-Texas-DFW]

Not bad for $16.

[txcas]

nc73 said:

Gonna have to get something like this

www.bayteccontainers.com/baytec/siphonpump.html

That is what I am using.

[txcas]

admin said:

I know Harbor Freight sells those drum cranes and should be pretty easy to install. I think I've seen one that has a disconnect at the base that will allow you to take the majority of the crane out when you're not using it.

Here's one for $82.99
www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1647
And here's one for $129.99
www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=37555

The problem with these cranes is that the truck bed is not strong enough to handle the 400 pounds. The base on the cranes is about 5" X 4" and with no additional support, trying to get a drum in your truck with these cranes will damage truck bed and could also cause an accident if you drop the drum. People on the Infopop forum found that these cranes can handle the load, but the truck beds can't.